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Postby wyliecoyoteuk » Sat Jan 16, 2010 10:17 am

Most laptops and all netbooks have an Ethernet port.
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Postby Bazza » Sat Jan 16, 2010 11:08 am

Hi wyliecoyote...

> Most laptops and all netbooks have an Ethernet port.

(I`ve already looked at that possibility.)

True, BUT, how do I access it in 16 bit code?
(Remember! I`m not that clever.)

Mine sits on a 32 bit address and IRQ 17...

It looks like the I/O control is outside the normal REAL
MODE I/O address ranges as well.

Now ollie...

> I was just wondering if you had legacy USB support turned on

I had a re-think to this line...

Some time ago I worked out how to inject a VCO into this
notebook using XP and a USB mouse. I found that the mousepad
AND an external USB mouse both worked together.
Although this is not relevant to my problem, maybe below is...

If legacy support IS available on portable units, then I could
use the mouse counters as two VCO inputs and have a dual
ADC as legacy USB assumes PS/2 port compatibility.

With PS/2 comatibility the address I/O in 60h and 64h is
available along with IRQ 12 to enable.

This would mean I could ditch the parallel and serial ports
completely, BUT, legacy USB mode must exist.

Sadly it looks as though they don`t on this HP dv2036ea
Notebook... :-(
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Postby LeeNukes » Sat Jan 16, 2010 3:05 pm

Exactly, aren't Physics lessons old school? Literally. I'm only 26
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Postby guy » Sat Jan 16, 2010 9:26 pm

I wouldn't call my lad "old school". He's 19.

Oh, riiight, you mean that any lessons are old school. Today's teachers alternate between form-filling and taking sickies. I knew that.
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Postby ollie » Sun Jan 17, 2010 3:50 am

Bazza wrote:Now ollie...

This would mean I could ditch the parallel and serial ports
completely, BUT, legacy USB mode must exist.

Sadly it looks as though they don`t on this HP dv2036ea
Notebook... :-(


Thanks for that, it's a pity they've dropped that support. Many motherboards and PCs don't even have the PS/2 ports any more. I've always found PS/2 very handy when the USB keyboard or mouse isn't being detected or working. :(
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Postby LeeNukes » Sun Jan 17, 2010 12:38 pm

guy wrote:I wouldn't call my lad "old school". He's 19.

Oh, riiight, you mean that any lessons are old school. Today's teachers alternate between form-filling and taking sickies. I knew that.


So it''s not school he is in then? Unless you're saying he had Physics lessons at school. We just had Science.
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Postby Bazza » Sun Jan 17, 2010 1:41 pm

Hi ollie...

> Thanks for that, it's a pity they've dropped that support.

I checked my mothers HP laptop too and it seems absent
there as well.

> Many motherboards and PCs don't even have the PS/2
> ports any more. I've always found PS/2 very handy when
> the USB keyboard or mouse isn't being detected or
> working. :-(

By definition though, legacy USB is not really needed for
portable units as they have built-in HW connected KBs and
Pointer devices.

I/O addresses 60h and 64h and IRQ1 and IRQ12 are used
in this notebook and my mums laptop. So technically PS/2
compatibility exists INTERNALLY but sadly NOT EXTERNALLY.
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Postby guy » Sun Jan 17, 2010 6:53 pm

LeeNukes wrote:So it''s not school he is in then? Unless you're saying he had Physics lessons at school. We just had Science.

Yes, he's at school and until recently was studying physics, chemistry and biology as separate GCSE courses. He couldn't find room for all three once he reached sixth form.
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Postby LeeNukes » Sun Jan 17, 2010 10:04 pm

guy wrote:
LeeNukes wrote:So it''s not school he is in then? Unless you're saying he had Physics lessons at school. We just had Science.

Yes, he's at school and until recently was studying physics, chemistry and biology as separate GCSE courses. He couldn't find room for all three once he reached sixth form.


He's 19 and at school?
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Postby guy » Mon Jan 18, 2010 10:08 pm

LeeNukes wrote:He's 19 and at school?

Yes, he took a "gap year" after his GCSE's because school was, well, childish (including the teachers) and he felt the need for a reality check.
Oh, that means he gave up physics a year earlier than I said.
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Postby LeeNukes » Mon Jan 18, 2010 10:39 pm

Fair enough. Still, didn't have Physics in my year, thought it was an old term.
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Postby GeordieJedi » Tue Jan 19, 2010 12:08 am

I think it totally depends on your schooling system and your age.
Im only 32 and I remember Physics,

Where I grew up (in Northumberland) we've got a 3 tier system.
(First, middle and then high school). I had Physics in high school.

But when I moved to County Durham it was "modular science"
and it had all 3 sciences combined.

I preferred high school physics TBH. (In actual fact I think I learnt more in
the 1st year of high school (Im talking maths and physics) than I did in the
whole of middle school.
But I put that down to my maths/physics teacher scaring the living
$h1t outta us. Oh, he was a bloody good teacher too.
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Postby Bazza » Tue Jan 19, 2010 6:10 pm

Hi all...

How can this thread possibly be in the popular category?

Half of it doesn`t pertain to the thread at all!
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Postby LeeNukes » Tue Jan 19, 2010 7:48 pm

Mine was modular science. Some dual award or something like that for GCSE.
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Postby wyliecoyoteuk » Tue Jan 19, 2010 8:56 pm

30 odd years ago, I did a combined Physics and chemistry course, run by the Nuffield Foundation, called "Physical Science", and actually achieved a pass at A-level.

The disciplines of Physics, Chemistry and Biology still exist, whatever they are called, old school or new school

At the risk of offending Catgate:
"Plus ça change, plus c’est la même chose"

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EDIT: shock! it was nearly 40 years ago!
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