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So much for all the Apple hype...

Postby Bazza » Fri Oct 23, 2009 9:23 pm

Hi all...

My daughter is a newbie at Chester Uni doing a Photographic
Journalism degree. In the area where she is they have loads
of these machines using the current OS:-

http://reviews.cnet.co.uk/desktops/0,39 ... 103,00.htm

She said, before going to Uni that she wanted a Mac laptop
because everyone said that they are the best...

Well after a few weeks of using them she is well pi**ed
off with Apple computers and has gone back to here own
Vista based laptop because "it is much faster and reliable".

WHAT!?!

She said that they were forever crashing or slowing down
to a crawl and half the apps didn`t work properly or at all.

So much for all the Apple hype...

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Postby Rhakios » Fri Oct 23, 2009 10:53 pm

I've only used Apple laptops and it doesn't give me any more problems in the crash/slowdown department than Linux.
OTOH, reading the MacFormat forums as I do, I notice that some of these iMacs seem to run quite hot. My MacBook Pro generally hovers between 30 and 40C on its stand, but some of these iMacs register temperatures of 90C, I wouldn't be surprised if that caused some problems.
Having also used Vista on rare occasions, I would not, under any circumstances, prefer it to OSX.
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Postby Bazza » Sat Oct 24, 2009 9:45 am

Hi Rhakios...

> I've only used Apple laptops and it doesn't give me any
> more problems in the crash/slowdown department than Linux.

I`m no expert on Macs at all and my knowledge on Linux is
so diverse that usually any help I ask for no one seems to have
an answer to. But I can only go on what my daughter`s
experience is on the Mac front.

If she says they are not what they are made out to be then
I have to believe her as she does use them daily now...

She used to say that Vista was SSLLOOWW but those Macs
are SSSSSLLLLLOOOOOWWWWW man, and unreliable.

I can only presume that the unreliability and crsah problems
are beacuse of the UNIs networking system and its admin
incompetence...

But hey, Apple Macs never crash do they? ;-)
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Postby LeeNukes » Sat Oct 24, 2009 1:40 pm

I'm not a fan of the people who are fans of apple. I just find people are buying them as a fasion accessory as opposed to what they actually can do and how they are different to a PC.
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Postby Rhakios » Sat Oct 24, 2009 6:28 pm

Bazza wrote:Hi Rhakios...


I can only presume that the unreliability and crsah problems
are beacuse of the UNIs networking system and its admin
incompetence...



If they are multi-user machines, I suspect the problems are quite likely to lie with the users, I don't specifically mean your daughter, you understand.

My old PowerBook is a bit slow, but then so are other machines I have of that vintage I try to run modern, full-blown OSes on.

My newer MacBook Pro is very snappy, especially since the Snow Leopard update, I didn't encounter any of the many problems other upgraders did, but then I do tend to take the time to read the instructions and prepare.

My experience with Macs has been largely positive and I like the way OSX integrates well into a mostly Linux network.
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Postby Bazza » Sat Oct 24, 2009 8:19 pm

Hi Rhakios...

> If they are multi-user machines, I suspect the problems
> are quite likely to lie with the users,

I forgot to add this point too except I`ve no idea how
those iMacs are set up...

> I don't specifically mean your daughter, you understand.

I do... :)

> My experience with Macs has been largely positive and
> I like the way OSX integrates well into a mostly Linux
> network.

As I have little experience of any Apple goods I will trust
your judgement. :-)
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Postby donoreo » Mon Oct 26, 2009 1:09 pm

Did she add RAM over the basic? Apple is notorious for shipping their hardware without enough RAM. Never buy the RAM from them either, unless you like it hard from behind (if you catch my drift there).
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Postby jamie_tickner » Tue Oct 27, 2009 7:21 pm

i got an iMac 6 weeks ago and i really like it but the file manager lets down osx
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Postby Rhakios » Tue Oct 27, 2009 7:33 pm

I'm inclined to agree, Finder is by far the worst aspect of Mac use, it's a good job Spotlight is there to actually find things. Quite why they can't manage to let Finder have dual-pane view is beyond me as well. They derived Webkit from Konqueror's KHTML, they could have learned a few other lessons from it while they were about it. :roll:
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Postby towy71 » Tue Oct 27, 2009 10:26 pm

ooh Apple learning from other people? surely not :roll: :roll: :roll:
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Postby Rhakios » Tue Oct 27, 2009 11:36 pm

towy71 wrote:ooh Apple learning from other people? surely not :roll: :roll: :roll:


According to a recent Nokia lawsuit, Apple have "learned" quite a lot from them. :)
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Postby Bazza » Wed Oct 28, 2009 7:27 am

Hi Rhakios...

> Quite why they can't manage to let Finder
> have dual-pane view is beyond me as well.

(I`m assuming Finder is something akin to Explorer here.)

Is it not possible to run two windows of Finder much
like Windows Explorer to give pseudo-dual pane effect?
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Postby ollie » Wed Oct 28, 2009 11:27 am

Bazza wrote:Is it not possible to run two windows of Finder much
like Windows Explorer to give pseudo-dual pane effect?


Yes you can, however if you drag files around to the left hand pane and then hover the folder/location will pop open and you can continue with this method.

I'm actually waiting for a new classroom of MacPro Quads to arrive, to go with the new Xserve Quad in my rack. I've then got some Raid card shuffling to move the XRAID storage to the new server :D

Now, if I can just get Windows 7 to authenticate to the new Xserve OpenDirectory I'll be happy :roll: :wink:
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Postby Rhakios » Wed Oct 28, 2009 6:11 pm

Bazza wrote:Is it not possible to run two windows of Finder much
like Windows Explorer to give pseudo-dual pane effect?


Of course, but I've got used to Konqueror, right click and select divide vertically or horizonatlly, you can also sub-divide and end up with as many divisions as you need. Having two windows is never as good as you have to resize them to the fit on the screen together. And multi-column view is no good unless the desired directories are in the same hierarchy.
Then again, Konqueror comprehends a good many more protocols than Finder, making it a drop in substitute for other dedicated software when managing files across ssh, ftp and webdav, to name but three I have used.

In case you haven't noticed, I rather like Konqueror. ;)
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